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Advice from the Tribesmen…Too Simple for the World?

By on October 23, 2007 – 11:11 am  9 Comments

Lucy Ryan, MAPP UEL student, is founding director of mindspring limited, one of the UK's foremost sales and personal impact training consultancies. Over the last decade, Lucy has trained over 9,000 people and she is committed to helping clients understand and communicate their value in a highly competitive marketplace and passionate about developing people so that their confidence and natural talents grow and flourish. Full bio.

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Chief Yapa, Posen & JJ in front of London’s skylineWhat was supposed to be a 30 minute frivolous “wind down” television program last week turned out to be a moving documentary and a poignant reminder of the central rationale of positive psychology.

In “Meet the Natives,” five tribesmen, or Melanesians, from Tanna (an island of Vanuatu) journeyed to England in the hope of meeting Prince Philip, who they believed was the Son of their God, and persuading him to return with them to Tanna. Hmm, you get my point about frivolity…

In the course of their month long stay in the United Kingdom (in which they did get their meeting with the Duke and the chance to ask him the “ultimate question”), they experienced hospitality at the hands of a multitude of British families. When asked to sum up their experience of a “civilised western society,” their spokesman – the genial artist – said:

“We live with love, respect and unity on Tanna and understand that the secret of happiness is sharing. I fear England is losing this, although it is still within their grasp. All they have to do is open their hands again, but their hands seem shut.”

Christopher Peterson PrimerDespite John-Paul Sartre’s protestations that “Hell is other People,” it appears that the evidence leans firmly towards Christopher Peterson’s summary of positive psychology that “Other People Matter” (2006):

  • People who are sociable and extraverted experience more positive affect than those who are not.
  • People who spend more time with others are happier than those who spend a lot of time alone.
  • People who have many friends are happier than those who have only a few.
  • And people who are married are happier than those who are divorced or widowed. A seven decade long Harvard study found that a good marriage at age 50 predicts healthy ageing better than does a low cholesterol level at 50 (George Vaillant, 2002).

Yet when Peter Warr and Roy Payne (1982) asked a representative sample of British adults what, if anything, had emotionally strained them the day before, their most frequent answer was “Family.” However, asked what prompted yesterday’s times of pleasure, the same British sample, by an even larger margin, again answered, “Family.” For most of us it seems that relationships provide not only our greatest heartaches but also our greatest comfort and joy.

For all of this, and as Robert Putnam (2000) has massively documented, we are becoming more, not less, individualistic with the ironic outcome that as we take individualism to an extreme, individual well-being suffers.

It occurs to me that in our quest for academic theories and scientific evidence in this emerging and complex discipline, it is easy to overlook the very simplicity of this notion – other people really do matter. I like Erich Fromm‘s (1956) point that our ideal in life should not be to “fall in love” but rather to “stand in love” – with love, relationships and happiness not heedless freefalls that just happen when gravity is on our side.

Sue Palmer Toxic ChildhoodJust in case I needed one further prompt, Sue Palmer, author of Toxic Childhood: How the modern world is damaging our children and what we can do (2007) was being interviewed this morning on the radio as I drove to work. Her new book is a polemic about the consumerism and stress surrounding our 7-11 year olds in the UK. “Children,” she stated, “are being sold the myth that happiness is Stuff. What they need is Presence, not presents.”

The interviewer scoffed at the triteness of the author’s latter statement in the same way that the field of Positive Psychology falls victim to accusations of banality, particularly from a sceptical, British audience. Yet as I watched the bewilderment on the faces of the tribesmen who came face to face with the true misery of six million, grey- suited, commuters on a grey London morning, I wondered what it will take for us to take on board Leonardo da Vinci‘s comment that “simplicity is the ultimate sophistication”?
 


 

References:

Fromm, E. (1956, 2006). The Art of Loving. New York: Harper Perennial Modern Classics. 50th Anniversary edition.

Palmer, S. (2007). Toxic Childhood: How the Modern World is Damaging Our Children and What We Can Do About It. United Kingdom: Orion.

Peterson, C., (2006). A Primer in Positive Psychology New York, NY: Oxford University Press.

Putnam, R. (2000). Bowling Alone : The Collapse and Revival of American Community. New York: Simon and Schuster.

Vaillant, G. E. (2003). Aging Well: Surprising Guideposts to a Happier Life from the Landmark Harvard Study of Adult Development. New York: Little Brown.

Warr, P., & Payne, R.(1982). Experiences of strain and pleasure among British adults. Social Science and Medicine, 16, 1691-1697.

Image: Chief Yapa, Posen & JJ in front of London’s skyline.

9 Comments »

  • Senia says:

    This is Lucy’s FIRST ARTICLE for PPND! Welcome, Lucy! Wonderful to be reading your work!

    ————–
    Lucy,

    Thanks for the in-depth article.

    You talk about Putnam’s work about individualism. It might also be that when we minimize individualism to the extreme (i.e. maximize focus on others and on work with little regard for self) that well-being may also suffer, as discussed by Dave Shearon here

    Perhaps research is starting to show that a balance of individual vs. other time is necessary.

    Best,
    Senia

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  • Viv Thackray says:

    Thanks for such an interesting and thought provoking article, Lucy. Especially poignant to return home tonight and read this, being one of the six million, grey-suited commuters of London that the Melanesians encountered!

    Warr and Payne’s findings remind me of Wittgenstein’s comment that
    ‘The aspects of things that are most important to us are hidden because of their simplicity and familiarity.’

    Thanks!
    Viv

  • Angus says:

    Yet as I watched the bewilderment on the faces of the tribesmen who came face to face with the true misery of six million, grey- suited, commuters on a grey London morning, I wondered what it will take for us to take on board Leonardo da Vinci’s comment that “simplicity is the ultimate sophistication”?

    Fabulous Lucy. Great piece, well written. Absolutely on the button. And love the inclusion of art, of course.

    Best aye
    Angus

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  • Sarah McNeill says:

    Lucy, I love the notion of “standing in love”.
    I have reviewed two plays this week, both, curiously, about mid-life crises. It seems that this baby-boomer generation of have-it-alls actually have very little in the way of satisfaction, happiness and peace of mind. We all need reminding more frequently that relationships rely more on memory – the remembering of shared times, of pain and pleasure – than on instant gratification.
    Thank you for reminding me to stand up and love, and be loved (hopefully)!
    Sarah, arts reviewer, Perth, Western Australia

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