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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Dave.  Your point about not denying your negative emotions is powerful and in my opinion, often overlooked by people.  Negative feelings can be very powerful and very helpful; and a balance of positive and negative in life is much needed.  Jung&#039;s idea of the Shadow is a great embodiment of this idea.  Do you have any thoughts on this analogy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Dave.  Your point about not denying your negative emotions is powerful and in my opinion, often overlooked by people.  Negative feelings can be very powerful and very helpful; and a balance of positive and negative in life is much needed.  Jung&#8217;s idea of the Shadow is a great embodiment of this idea.  Do you have any thoughts on this analogy?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Shearon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Shearon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc, those are interesting questions.  Again, I think the question of whether we should expect a particular negative emotion to go away depends on the nature of the event and our thoughts about it.  For a serious loss, our thoughts about the event will likely lead to sadness for some time.  An interview with John Wooden in the last few days noted that he has written a letter to his late wife every month over the many years since she has died.  I would suspect he has had some thoughts of loss and feeling of sadness during those times.  However, it hasn&#039;t kept him from continuing to function at a very high level, including teaching at UCLA until just recently.  So, in his case, it has worked to allow that emotion to remain with him and deal with his loss and his thoughts about it in the creative form of writing.  People are different and situations are different, so approaches cannot be the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc, those are interesting questions.  Again, I think the question of whether we should expect a particular negative emotion to go away depends on the nature of the event and our thoughts about it.  For a serious loss, our thoughts about the event will likely lead to sadness for some time.  An interview with John Wooden in the last few days noted that he has written a letter to his late wife every month over the many years since she has died.  I would suspect he has had some thoughts of loss and feeling of sadness during those times.  However, it hasn&#8217;t kept him from continuing to function at a very high level, including teaching at UCLA until just recently.  So, in his case, it has worked to allow that emotion to remain with him and deal with his loss and his thoughts about it in the creative form of writing.  People are different and situations are different, so approaches cannot be the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Shearon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Shearon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Krystal!  It&#039;s possible to experience positive and negative emotions simultaneously.  &quot;Bittersweet&quot; is one word that captures part of this experience.  I suspect that if a person is open and accepting of negative emotions, any positive emotions that person is also able to experience will not cover up the negative emotions so that he or she would be unable to learn from them.  So, I certainly wouldn&#039;t worry about or try to inhibit positive emotions for fear of &quot;missing out&quot; on something I could learn from negative emotions.  For me, as long as the aspect of my environment and my thoughts about it that led to the negative emotions stay unchanged, the negative emotions will likely remain also.  What I want is to make sure that I&#039;m seeing all the picture and not missing bits that might cause me to change my thoughts and therefore change my negative emotions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Krystal!  It&#8217;s possible to experience positive and negative emotions simultaneously.  &#8220;Bittersweet&#8221; is one word that captures part of this experience.  I suspect that if a person is open and accepting of negative emotions, any positive emotions that person is also able to experience will not cover up the negative emotions so that he or she would be unable to learn from them.  So, I certainly wouldn&#8217;t worry about or try to inhibit positive emotions for fear of &#8220;missing out&#8221; on something I could learn from negative emotions.  For me, as long as the aspect of my environment and my thoughts about it that led to the negative emotions stay unchanged, the negative emotions will likely remain also.  What I want is to make sure that I&#8217;m seeing all the picture and not missing bits that might cause me to change my thoughts and therefore change my negative emotions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Shearon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Shearon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Jennn!  Family members can, at times, be the toughest folks to talk to.  And, of course, every relationship has its peculiar dynamics.  But, as a general matter, I try to be honest and open about my enthusiasm.  Then I try to share the stories that have proven most meaningful to me.  Often, these are stories about what others report as meaningful.  I may find it meaningful, too, but when I explore my thoughts and feelings, I often find that it is the stories that carry the most impact, even though I wouldn&#039;t give them as much credence but for the data.  So, for folks who aren&#039;t interested in studying the data, I suggest sharing the stories that your study convinces you best represent the findings in the field.  Hope this is some help, and hope you continue to enjoy your studies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jennn!  Family members can, at times, be the toughest folks to talk to.  And, of course, every relationship has its peculiar dynamics.  But, as a general matter, I try to be honest and open about my enthusiasm.  Then I try to share the stories that have proven most meaningful to me.  Often, these are stories about what others report as meaningful.  I may find it meaningful, too, but when I explore my thoughts and feelings, I often find that it is the stories that carry the most impact, even though I wouldn&#8217;t give them as much credence but for the data.  So, for folks who aren&#8217;t interested in studying the data, I suggest sharing the stories that your study convinces you best represent the findings in the field.  Hope this is some help, and hope you continue to enjoy your studies!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life is full of ups and downs and responding appropriately and authentically to these experiences is surely a sign we&#039;re emotionally alive and well?

At their best negative emotions tell us when things are not right, they sound alarm bells that warn and protect us.  At their worst the alarms never stop ringing and trap us in repeating cycles of fear, anger, sadness or negativity.

Negative emotions have their place, however the issue many of us face is learning how to keep them there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life is full of ups and downs and responding appropriately and authentically to these experiences is surely a sign we&#8217;re emotionally alive and well?</p>
<p>At their best negative emotions tell us when things are not right, they sound alarm bells that warn and protect us.  At their worst the alarms never stop ringing and trap us in repeating cycles of fear, anger, sadness or negativity.</p>
<p>Negative emotions have their place, however the issue many of us face is learning how to keep them there.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave,

Quick question. As you mentioned, negative emotions are information about our lives and our environment. Given this, and the appropriate context/severity, would it perhaps be better to strive to eliminate the specific negative emotion entirely? Alternatively, could there be times when harboring the negative emotions (essentially letting them drive you) could actually be beneficial to a situation?

-Marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave,</p>
<p>Quick question. As you mentioned, negative emotions are information about our lives and our environment. Given this, and the appropriate context/severity, would it perhaps be better to strive to eliminate the specific negative emotion entirely? Alternatively, could there be times when harboring the negative emotions (essentially letting them drive you) could actually be beneficial to a situation?</p>
<p>-Marc</p>
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		<title>By: Krystal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

This was a very helpful article. Most often we associate negative emotions with the affects and negative consequences that they often bring. Instead we should appreciate the emotions and use them constructively. In reading the article, one question came to mind. Is it possible that increasing positive emotions after experiencing negative can hinder us from exploring the whole &quot;iceburg&quot;? In other words, can the increased positive emotions serve as a cover up for our negative emotions?

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>This was a very helpful article. Most often we associate negative emotions with the affects and negative consequences that they often bring. Instead we should appreciate the emotions and use them constructively. In reading the article, one question came to mind. Is it possible that increasing positive emotions after experiencing negative can hinder us from exploring the whole &#8220;iceburg&#8221;? In other words, can the increased positive emotions serve as a cover up for our negative emotions?</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Veit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn Veit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave and thanks for addressing such a commonly misnderstood aspect of Positive Psychology.  It reminds me of when Chiropractors we all thought of as quacks.  This branch of Psychology is still building rapport with the masses.  At any rate, I am in a positive psych class currently and have been a proponent of utilizing negative emotions for progress for many years.  

What do you think is a good way to open up a conversation with a family member about this subject?  More specifically, I am close to my sister emotionally but not in proximity.  We have not been around each other often for years so much of the growth that I have gained is not always something that affects her growth positive way.  I would love to discuss with her the notion that &quot;negative&quot; is not synonymous with &quot;bad&quot; as I feel that the slight change in perspective is not just semantics, but essential to a healthy outlook.  

Of course this isn&#039;t therapy (LOL) but I thought any opinion of yours may help shed some objectivity on the situation.  When I have big ideas like this, I tend to sound a little &quot;out there&quot; or a little too &quot;peace on earth&quot;-ish when I intend to sound intelligent : )  Thanks again for your contribution!

Jenn Veit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave and thanks for addressing such a commonly misnderstood aspect of Positive Psychology.  It reminds me of when Chiropractors we all thought of as quacks.  This branch of Psychology is still building rapport with the masses.  At any rate, I am in a positive psych class currently and have been a proponent of utilizing negative emotions for progress for many years.  </p>
<p>What do you think is a good way to open up a conversation with a family member about this subject?  More specifically, I am close to my sister emotionally but not in proximity.  We have not been around each other often for years so much of the growth that I have gained is not always something that affects her growth positive way.  I would love to discuss with her the notion that &#8220;negative&#8221; is not synonymous with &#8220;bad&#8221; as I feel that the slight change in perspective is not just semantics, but essential to a healthy outlook.  </p>
<p>Of course this isn&#8217;t therapy (LOL) but I thought any opinion of yours may help shed some objectivity on the situation.  When I have big ideas like this, I tend to sound a little &#8220;out there&#8221; or a little too &#8220;peace on earth&#8221;-ish when I intend to sound intelligent : )  Thanks again for your contribution!</p>
<p>Jenn Veit</p>
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		<title>By: Marcial Losada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcial Losada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your article, Dave. I like it because it brings power and truth to PP. When I discovered the minimum ratio that leads to flourishing that Barbara then tested against data on flourishing individuals, and later confirmed with Chris Waugh, we found something that requires pausing in order to grasp its deep meaning. Your article helps in finding this meaning. Let me add my thoughts.

First, let&#039;s start with the numbers and their properties. The ratio, for the public, is 3:1. For scientists is 2.901315789. You cannot ask people to try for 2.901315789 for every negative. 3 to 1 is good enough. Some people say that my number is unreal. It depends on what kind of reality we are talking about. When I work with teams and code their P/N ratio I use a counting device in my ipod so that I can do this under the table, trying to interfere the least with the team interacion process. At the end I look at my numerator (positivity) and denominator (negativity). Those numbers are always integers, of course. But their ratio, most of the time is not! It&#039;s rather rare to find an integer. So which are more real: the fractions or the integers? Funny enough, the &quot;real&quot; numbers in math comprise both the integers and the fractions.  And because we are deling with a nonlinear process (all complex human interaction is nonlinear) we need as many decimals as those numerators and denominators can generate. Remember what happened to Lorenz when he tried to put less decimal than he got at the beginning? That is call sensitivity to initial conditions and we have to respect it if we want to find our way in the laberyth of human interaction.

Second, I didn&#039;t discover a 3 to zero ratio. Or a 2.901315789 to zero ratio, to be precise. There was a 1 in that denominator. A big 1 which, among others things makes division posible. That 1 is not something we want to get rid of. This is the 1 you&#039;re talking about in your excellent article, Dave. Life requires nonlinear control. Our hearts do, our brain does. Nonlinear control can only be achieved with an adequate proportion of positive to negative feedback. You take away the negative feedback and the system goes to a limit cycle losing its complexity; energy is not renovated, it becomes stale. You take away the positive feedback and the system goes to a fixed-point attractor; energy is exhausted. The power of PP lies in undertanding and helping people to use this proportion. Preaching the positive in detriment of the negative is not good even for robots. If you want them to achieve complex tasks they will need both positive and negative feedback. Probably, a 3 to 1 ratio if we want them to flourish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your article, Dave. I like it because it brings power and truth to PP. When I discovered the minimum ratio that leads to flourishing that Barbara then tested against data on flourishing individuals, and later confirmed with Chris Waugh, we found something that requires pausing in order to grasp its deep meaning. Your article helps in finding this meaning. Let me add my thoughts.</p>
<p>First, let&#8217;s start with the numbers and their properties. The ratio, for the public, is 3:1. For scientists is 2.901315789. You cannot ask people to try for 2.901315789 for every negative. 3 to 1 is good enough. Some people say that my number is unreal. It depends on what kind of reality we are talking about. When I work with teams and code their P/N ratio I use a counting device in my ipod so that I can do this under the table, trying to interfere the least with the team interacion process. At the end I look at my numerator (positivity) and denominator (negativity). Those numbers are always integers, of course. But their ratio, most of the time is not! It&#8217;s rather rare to find an integer. So which are more real: the fractions or the integers? Funny enough, the &#8220;real&#8221; numbers in math comprise both the integers and the fractions.  And because we are deling with a nonlinear process (all complex human interaction is nonlinear) we need as many decimals as those numerators and denominators can generate. Remember what happened to Lorenz when he tried to put less decimal than he got at the beginning? That is call sensitivity to initial conditions and we have to respect it if we want to find our way in the laberyth of human interaction.</p>
<p>Second, I didn&#8217;t discover a 3 to zero ratio. Or a 2.901315789 to zero ratio, to be precise. There was a 1 in that denominator. A big 1 which, among others things makes division posible. That 1 is not something we want to get rid of. This is the 1 you&#8217;re talking about in your excellent article, Dave. Life requires nonlinear control. Our hearts do, our brain does. Nonlinear control can only be achieved with an adequate proportion of positive to negative feedback. You take away the negative feedback and the system goes to a limit cycle losing its complexity; energy is not renovated, it becomes stale. You take away the positive feedback and the system goes to a fixed-point attractor; energy is exhausted. The power of PP lies in undertanding and helping people to use this proportion. Preaching the positive in detriment of the negative is not good even for robots. If you want them to achieve complex tasks they will need both positive and negative feedback. Probably, a 3 to 1 ratio if we want them to flourish.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Shearon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Shearon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Victoria!  Yes, our negatative emotions can be telling us important things about our environment and the directions of our lives.  But, we also know we have a &quot;negativity bias&quot; -- we are generally more likely to notice, remember, and recall negative things.  So, we have to question whether negative emotions are always telling us useful stuff.  The old adage of an optimist as someone who sees the glass as half full has some merit.  Sometimes, it is all in how we look at things.

Also, from Barbara Fredrickson&#039;s and Marcial Losada&#039;s work, we know that a ratio of positive to negative emotions of 1:1 or less is extremely counterproductive for an individual, couple, or team.  When positives to negatives run around 2:1, the individual, couple, or team languishes.  Only at 3:1 or higher does the broadening of thought and building of resources associated with positive emotions create flourishing.  Focusing on challenging pessimistic thinking can be one way of improving the positivity ratio.  So can mindfulness meditation, exercise, doing the Three Good Things exercise, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Victoria!  Yes, our negatative emotions can be telling us important things about our environment and the directions of our lives.  But, we also know we have a &#8220;negativity bias&#8221; &#8212; we are generally more likely to notice, remember, and recall negative things.  So, we have to question whether negative emotions are always telling us useful stuff.  The old adage of an optimist as someone who sees the glass as half full has some merit.  Sometimes, it is all in how we look at things.</p>
<p>Also, from Barbara Fredrickson&#8217;s and Marcial Losada&#8217;s work, we know that a ratio of positive to negative emotions of 1:1 or less is extremely counterproductive for an individual, couple, or team.  When positives to negatives run around 2:1, the individual, couple, or team languishes.  Only at 3:1 or higher does the broadening of thought and building of resources associated with positive emotions create flourishing.  Focusing on challenging pessimistic thinking can be one way of improving the positivity ratio.  So can mindfulness meditation, exercise, doing the Three Good Things exercise, etc.</p>
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