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		<title>By: wayne jencke</title>
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		<dc:creator>wayne jencke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karel - You are absolutely on the money - many of the academics also have commercial interests. This seems to be very prevalent in PP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karel &#8211; You are absolutely on the money &#8211; many of the academics also have commercial interests. This seems to be very prevalent in PP.</p>
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		<title>By: Karel Botha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karel Botha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from South Africa and I also attended the conference in Melbourne - what a fantastic experience. We haven&#039;t made the same progress regarding the facilitation of positive psychology in different contexts - much of the research and discussions here still centre around the dynamics of cultural / ethnic differences in well-being. One observation I made in Australia is that a large group of academics and practitioners embrace and promote the &quot;Ten steps to Happiness&quot; or &quot;Be happy!&quot; type attitude, clearly aimed at the consumer market. But at what cost for positive psychology as a science?
Karel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from South Africa and I also attended the conference in Melbourne &#8211; what a fantastic experience. We haven&#8217;t made the same progress regarding the facilitation of positive psychology in different contexts &#8211; much of the research and discussions here still centre around the dynamics of cultural / ethnic differences in well-being. One observation I made in Australia is that a large group of academics and practitioners embrace and promote the &#8220;Ten steps to Happiness&#8221; or &#8220;Be happy!&#8221; type attitude, clearly aimed at the consumer market. But at what cost for positive psychology as a science?<br />
Karel</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest Semerda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest Semerda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Positive psychology, change &amp; culture should always start from the top else it will be like pulling bricks up a mountain. It should be a part of top management&#039;s performance agreement to instil that into the troops thus creating a positive and happy environment where learning from mistakes is encouraged and creating an environment where people want to work and contribute.
There is a great saying - &quot;The fish rots from the head.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Positive psychology, change &amp; culture should always start from the top else it will be like pulling bricks up a mountain. It should be a part of top management&#8217;s performance agreement to instil that into the troops thus creating a positive and happy environment where learning from mistakes is encouraged and creating an environment where people want to work and contribute.<br />
There is a great saying &#8211; &#8220;The fish rots from the head.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Horne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda Horne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Everyone

Thank you for your many interesting and stimulating comments and observation.

Here are some additional thoughts after reading through your comments:

- schools are workplaces too, as my friend and colleague Jenny Fox Eades reminds us, therefore working with schools is working with organisations

- the military is also a workplace, doing Positive Psychology in the military is an example of doing Positive Psychology in a workplace

- there is clearly a lot happening with the application of Pos Psych in workplaces and organisations.  Just because not all the applications are showcased at Positive Psychology conferences does not mean they are not happening

- perhaps different kinds of conferences or gatherings are &#039;homes&#039; for workplace applications and experiences around Positive Psychology and related fields.  Or, specific workplace-focused gatherings are attached to a Pos Psych conference so that people who are interested in workplaces have an alternative gathering which is more suited to their interests. Such a gathering would have a title which attracts them

- language is critical, it needs to reach out to the audience

- a number of comments point to the many other fields of relevance, not just Pos Psych. Bringing them together brings depth

- Positive Psychology might appear to be a rehash, but the academic rigour IS of interest to executives. I have met many executives who are relieved &quot;thank goodness someone is studying this!&quot;.  They find that the Positive Psychology rigour is an opportunity to bring attention to topics which previously did not get traction

Really enjoyed reading your responses - thank you everyone!
Amanda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Everyone</p>
<p>Thank you for your many interesting and stimulating comments and observation.</p>
<p>Here are some additional thoughts after reading through your comments:</p>
<p>- schools are workplaces too, as my friend and colleague Jenny Fox Eades reminds us, therefore working with schools is working with organisations</p>
<p>- the military is also a workplace, doing Positive Psychology in the military is an example of doing Positive Psychology in a workplace</p>
<p>- there is clearly a lot happening with the application of Pos Psych in workplaces and organisations.  Just because not all the applications are showcased at Positive Psychology conferences does not mean they are not happening</p>
<p>- perhaps different kinds of conferences or gatherings are &#8216;homes&#8217; for workplace applications and experiences around Positive Psychology and related fields.  Or, specific workplace-focused gatherings are attached to a Pos Psych conference so that people who are interested in workplaces have an alternative gathering which is more suited to their interests. Such a gathering would have a title which attracts them</p>
<p>- language is critical, it needs to reach out to the audience</p>
<p>- a number of comments point to the many other fields of relevance, not just Pos Psych. Bringing them together brings depth</p>
<p>- Positive Psychology might appear to be a rehash, but the academic rigour IS of interest to executives. I have met many executives who are relieved &#8220;thank goodness someone is studying this!&#8221;.  They find that the Positive Psychology rigour is an opportunity to bring attention to topics which previously did not get traction</p>
<p>Really enjoyed reading your responses &#8211; thank you everyone!<br />
Amanda</p>
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		<title>By: amanda levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda, I loved the article. As authentic an article on PP in the workplace as I&#039;ve seen in a long time. thank you.

While I agree with WJ on several of the points made about business&#039; perception of PP, perhaps the term PP itself works against us. Perhaps media coverage, and hence public and organizational perception, is &#039;narrower&#039; than the actual discipline. Possible?  After all, WE know that PP goes beyond gratitude, but how about the rest ....

Also, my sense is that when one is perceived to to be trying to get into an organization&#039;s &#039;psychological shorts&#039; (so to speak) people get nervous.  Especially management. As practitioners, are we perhaps remiss in trying to &#039;sell&#039; PP.

I believe that there are many many practitioners applying the broadest of PP concepts - and doing so successfully. (See Jocelyn Davis&#039; chapter in Linley&#039;s Handbook of PP in the Workplace&quot;. Maureen&#039;s comment is particularly applicable here, where the Central American &#039;relational&#039; culture is certainly more accepting of a PP approach.)

Granted, there is likely insufficient &#039;hard evidence&#039; to satisfy the rigours of science, but at the end of the day..will any one organizational application of PP ever be like another, given the uniqueness of each organization (and the mix of PP concepts applied).

So yes, like you, I would love to hear more, much more, about what&#039;s working, where and how. But, given the challenges of finding acceptable &#039;evidence&#039;; your experience in Australia; and mine at last year&#039;s conference in Philadelphia; it seems unlikely we&#039;ll be finding what we&#039;re looking for at conferences.  

Perhaps PPND - or a similar forum - can or will step up to the plate. Possible? Hope so :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, I loved the article. As authentic an article on PP in the workplace as I&#8217;ve seen in a long time. thank you.</p>
<p>While I agree with WJ on several of the points made about business&#8217; perception of PP, perhaps the term PP itself works against us. Perhaps media coverage, and hence public and organizational perception, is &#8216;narrower&#8217; than the actual discipline. Possible?  After all, WE know that PP goes beyond gratitude, but how about the rest &#8230;.</p>
<p>Also, my sense is that when one is perceived to to be trying to get into an organization&#8217;s &#8216;psychological shorts&#8217; (so to speak) people get nervous.  Especially management. As practitioners, are we perhaps remiss in trying to &#8217;sell&#8217; PP.</p>
<p>I believe that there are many many practitioners applying the broadest of PP concepts &#8211; and doing so successfully. (See Jocelyn Davis&#8217; chapter in Linley&#8217;s Handbook of PP in the Workplace&#8221;. Maureen&#8217;s comment is particularly applicable here, where the Central American &#8216;relational&#8217; culture is certainly more accepting of a PP approach.)</p>
<p>Granted, there is likely insufficient &#8216;hard evidence&#8217; to satisfy the rigours of science, but at the end of the day..will any one organizational application of PP ever be like another, given the uniqueness of each organization (and the mix of PP concepts applied).</p>
<p>So yes, like you, I would love to hear more, much more, about what&#8217;s working, where and how. But, given the challenges of finding acceptable &#8216;evidence&#8217;; your experience in Australia; and mine at last year&#8217;s conference in Philadelphia; it seems unlikely we&#8217;ll be finding what we&#8217;re looking for at conferences.  </p>
<p>Perhaps PPND &#8211; or a similar forum &#8211; can or will step up to the plate. Possible? Hope so <img src='http://positivepsychologynews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: WJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>WJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda - its interesting that the areas gaining traction are schools and the military - both are tax payer funded. Government typically isn&#039;t as focused on the bottom line. Perhaps the issue is a perception that PP is too light weight and doesn&#039;t provide a ROI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda &#8211; its interesting that the areas gaining traction are schools and the military &#8211; both are tax payer funded. Government typically isn&#8217;t as focused on the bottom line. Perhaps the issue is a perception that PP is too light weight and doesn&#8217;t provide a ROI.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Sansom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Sansom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amanda - fabulous article! While I didn&#039;t attend the Australia conference, I am completely drawn to your observation that we seem to be forgetting about Pos Psych in the workplace. I&#039;m currently in the MAPP program at U Penn, and at the October 2009 MAPP Summit, Dr. Seligman outlined some of his thoughts for his new upcoming book with the new pillars of well-being. He told us about chapter titles, and shared a bit of content. It was apparent to me that there was nothing on positive organizations, and I asked him about this omission. His answer was essentially (and I paraphrase): &quot;I have nothing new to add about that. Perhaps others are carrying that field forward.&quot;

I think that introducing Pos Psych into workplaces has been more difficult than positive psychologists and practitioners imagined. Originally, the workplace was thought of as a &quot;natural home&quot; for positive psychology - now the natural home is, surprisingly, the US military and, less surprisingly, schools. I accept this change, but I don&#039;t accept neglecting workplaces, and I&#039;m still quite passionate about bringing Pos Psych into organizations and businesses. I&#039;d love to hear from others who have done it, because the successes feel few and far between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amanda &#8211; fabulous article! While I didn&#8217;t attend the Australia conference, I am completely drawn to your observation that we seem to be forgetting about Pos Psych in the workplace. I&#8217;m currently in the MAPP program at U Penn, and at the October 2009 MAPP Summit, Dr. Seligman outlined some of his thoughts for his new upcoming book with the new pillars of well-being. He told us about chapter titles, and shared a bit of content. It was apparent to me that there was nothing on positive organizations, and I asked him about this omission. His answer was essentially (and I paraphrase): &#8220;I have nothing new to add about that. Perhaps others are carrying that field forward.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that introducing Pos Psych into workplaces has been more difficult than positive psychologists and practitioners imagined. Originally, the workplace was thought of as a &#8220;natural home&#8221; for positive psychology &#8211; now the natural home is, surprisingly, the US military and, less surprisingly, schools. I accept this change, but I don&#8217;t accept neglecting workplaces, and I&#8217;m still quite passionate about bringing Pos Psych into organizations and businesses. I&#8217;d love to hear from others who have done it, because the successes feel few and far between.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda, your summary of your experience of the conference is a mirror of my own! Low expectations ending high levels of energy and optimism. Reflecting on your question about pos psych and workplaces, I can offer the following:
1     The use of language is critical in business in order to get buy in. We need to be seen to be business credible not faddish.
2     Demystifying key findings in pos psych can help. Again, leave the jargon alone. Simple pragmatic steps for individuals help.
3     Have a success story up your sleeve. It helps people personalize the pos psych possibility for them. 


thanks for your post
Kate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, your summary of your experience of the conference is a mirror of my own! Low expectations ending high levels of energy and optimism. Reflecting on your question about pos psych and workplaces, I can offer the following:<br />
1     The use of language is critical in business in order to get buy in. We need to be seen to be business credible not faddish.<br />
2     Demystifying key findings in pos psych can help. Again, leave the jargon alone. Simple pragmatic steps for individuals help.<br />
3     Have a success story up your sleeve. It helps people personalize the pos psych possibility for them. </p>
<p>thanks for your post<br />
Kate</p>
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		<title>By: Eleanor Chin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eleanor Chin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amanda, Thanks for this wonderful report from Down Under. So much great work happening in Australia! As for positive psychology in businesses, I suspect that there&#039;s more happening there than we think. In my work with businesses, I&#039;ve found that the term positive psychology doesn&#039;t resonate as much as more business-like terms such  &quot;engagement,&quot; &quot;leading from strengths&quot; etc. Also, when you read the latest business and leadership literature, it&#039;s full of positive psychology theories like Meaning and Spirituality in the Workplace (Paul Wong and Amy Wrzesniewski) or Jane Dutton&#039;s (and colleagues&#039;)High Quality Connections at work, etc. I suspect that many businesses and business consultants who are using positive psychology principles might not even know it and probably only subscribe to a small subset of the whole. For those who want to explore more about business and PP, I hear that Paul Wong is mounting an international conference on meaning in Vancouver in August called &quot;Creating Psychologically Healthy Organizations: Meaning, Spirituality and Engagement.&quot; A quiet revolution is still a revolution. Eleanor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amanda, Thanks for this wonderful report from Down Under. So much great work happening in Australia! As for positive psychology in businesses, I suspect that there&#8217;s more happening there than we think. In my work with businesses, I&#8217;ve found that the term positive psychology doesn&#8217;t resonate as much as more business-like terms such  &#8220;engagement,&#8221; &#8220;leading from strengths&#8221; etc. Also, when you read the latest business and leadership literature, it&#8217;s full of positive psychology theories like Meaning and Spirituality in the Workplace (Paul Wong and Amy Wrzesniewski) or Jane Dutton&#8217;s (and colleagues&#8217;)High Quality Connections at work, etc. I suspect that many businesses and business consultants who are using positive psychology principles might not even know it and probably only subscribe to a small subset of the whole. For those who want to explore more about business and PP, I hear that Paul Wong is mounting an international conference on meaning in Vancouver in August called &#8220;Creating Psychologically Healthy Organizations: Meaning, Spirituality and Engagement.&#8221; A quiet revolution is still a revolution. Eleanor</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece Amanda.

In my experience the lack of PP in organisations is due to two things:
1) the obsession in business with calculating an ROI. On the one hand, you migth say well this is what being in business is all about. On the other, it&#039;s ironic, I mean  organisations generally fail to calculate the ROI of their IT implementations accurately, so they have no hope of doing it with PP. This leads me to my 2nd point which is that
2) If you have a sponsor at the top of the organisation, anything can be made to work, even when you haven&#039;t been able to calculate the ROI accurately. I&#039;ve seen perfectly good well-being projects fall by the wayside because the sponsor was never fully committed, or moved on to another organisation before it gained traction. This is a common problem in any change management situation. In that sense PP is no different to anything else.

Bridget</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece Amanda.</p>
<p>In my experience the lack of PP in organisations is due to two things:<br />
1) the obsession in business with calculating an ROI. On the one hand, you migth say well this is what being in business is all about. On the other, it&#8217;s ironic, I mean  organisations generally fail to calculate the ROI of their IT implementations accurately, so they have no hope of doing it with PP. This leads me to my 2nd point which is that<br />
2) If you have a sponsor at the top of the organisation, anything can be made to work, even when you haven&#8217;t been able to calculate the ROI accurately. I&#8217;ve seen perfectly good well-being projects fall by the wayside because the sponsor was never fully committed, or moved on to another organisation before it gained traction. This is a common problem in any change management situation. In that sense PP is no different to anything else.</p>
<p>Bridget</p>
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